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Well, I hope this can be answered. I am getting the genesis coupe 2.0T(track) which should be available june/july. Since the car comes out before the summer time, and the gas prices will likely to sky rise again. I would like to know what all is involved to do a E85 conversion. I know it decreases in fuel economy, but cleaner, and cheaper is the key I'm looking for. I do plan on doing for say a decent amount of upgrades to my car after the break in. Thanks...
 

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Well, I hope this can be answered. I am getting the genesis coupe 2.0T(track) which should be available june/july. Since the car comes out before the summer time, and the gas prices will likely to sky rise again. I would like to know what all is involved to do a E85 conversion. I know it decreases in fuel economy, but cleaner, and cheaper is the key I'm looking for. I do plan on doing for say a decent amount of upgrades to my car after the break in. Thanks...
I'm gonna shoot an email to Hyundai and see if the cars will be able to run E85 out of the box but I'd stay away from E85 from not only a performance standpoint but as you mentioned a MPG standpoint. You usually get less of both because E85 just doesnt have the same amount of "energy" that gas does and if you look at the BIG picture of how inefficient E85 is to produce it's not necessarily "cleaner". Also if it wasn't for the fact that E85 producers get HUGE subsidies from the government E85 would cost several dollars MORE than just regular gas.
 

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Ok, I only plan to drive the car during the summer time to begin with. I do not plan on changing the stock tires. According the the interview with Derek Joyce:


GF: How will these cars are gonna handle in winter driving?

DJ: You’re gonna need a different set of tires for the Track model. It’s a summer compound. It’s not gonna do well in the snow, we call it a Track
model for that purpose, its for the track and street, but its not made for snow belt driving in winter. So ya you might need to get an extra set of winter
tires.


GF: Stability control? Will that for those that do have…

DJ: Ya you will be able to maintain control with SC, obviously that gonna help. Obviously with traction control that’s gonna help a lot. With careful
driving but as a manufacture we don’t recommend that with summer compound tires. Even with ABS if you brake hard with snow or ice it takes a
long time to stop. It’ll depend on how you drive but we as a manufacture don’t recommend using the Track model in the snow.
 

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I plan to run E85 on higher boost level for racing purposes. For daily and lower boost, 93 is fine with me.
 

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Yea I have a 01 camry with about 98,000 on the odo. So thats going to be my ride for right now.
 

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Anything that will corode due to the high alcohol content of e85. Certain hoses possibly, seals, etc. fuel lines, possibly pump components, etc. Can't really tell you without knowing what the fuel system consists of. E85 does wonders in forced induction applications though, could be fun.
 

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Most current fuel line and pump companies have been able to rate most of their exsisting product lines for E85... The biggest thing in doing a conversion is adding 30% higher flowing Fuel Injectors and reprogramming the PCM with a new map to control the larger injectors and timing curves.

E85 as a fuel reacts differently and burns cooler than normal gasoline so changes have to be made to make use of the fuel.

Its great for race apps, higher octane (but less energy than gas) so you can run higher boost and higher timing with cooler charge temps and Combustion Chamber/Exhaust Temps.
 

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^ hardmack you hit the the nail on it. besides also the fuel ideas you posted you will also need to know if all the OEM hoses and lines can handle E85. it's very well known for eating through all stock plastics and also rubber gaskets or o-rings. if you wanna see that in practice watch the top gear race when they run there bmw that they made there gas (E85) and broke down during the race due to this. there are kits you can buy but don't know if they'll make one for our car.
 

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^ hardmack you hit the the nail on it. besides also the fuel ideas you posted you will also need to know if all the OEM hoses and lines can handle E85. it's very well known for eating through all stock plastics and also rubber gaskets or o-rings. if you wanna see that in practice watch the top gear race when they run there bmw that they made there gas (E85) and broke down during the race due to this. there are kits you can buy but don't know if they'll make one for our car.
If they don't I will. I always hope & pray that after market companies will come out with a kit that fits our needs so we don't have to build one ourselves. But, if push comes to shove & no vendor builds a kit, well, where there's a will there's a way.

But, I'm pretty sure the vendors on here will eventually resolve that issue.;)



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E85 will come when someone cracks the ECU. Without controlling timing fuel etc its useless. To answer your question of cost
Fuel pumo 100 bucks
Injectors 350-450
Fuel return line 350
This is just for e85 , something to tune and monitor your AFR is recommended. So figure 800 bucks. EVO guys love iE85 and make sick power. Only time will tell what happens with the gen
 

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^ hardmack you hit the the nail on it. besides also the fuel ideas you posted you will also need to know if all the OEM hoses and lines can handle E85. it's very well known for eating through all stock plastics and also rubber gaskets or o-rings. if you wanna see that in practice watch the top gear race when they run there bmw that they made there gas (E85) and broke down during the race due to this. there are kits you can buy but don't know if they'll make one for our car.
Yup, E85 eats through rubber... You'd have to upgrade to silicone fuel lines...
 

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I don't know about you but ethanol is hard to come by here in Canada so imho it's more or less a false sense of economy. Sure the gas is cheaper but you're spending about an eight of the tank just getting to the one pump in the entire region that has E85. If ethanol is more readily available in your neck of the woods then I'd say go for it... if not then it's all really just a false sense of economy.
 

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ive been doing alot of research on algae ethanol and all i have to say is look up algenol that company will revolutionie the world when they go public i highly suggest everyone to invest in their stock and say goodbye to gasoline :) end ethanol argument!!!!
 
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