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Also we don't know much about how the dyno was run, like what was the temperature, what gearing, what kind of gearbox, auto or manual... these all have a factor in the numbers. It does seem logical that Hyundai was underrating them, i'm guessing more than a 10%, that is really low. Otherwise it was a good video.

For those who don't know, 30.39 Kg/M translates to 219 lb-ft, and I think most of that comes on rather early, like ~2000RPM... That's will help a lot with getting this car moving



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Yeah most RWD cars have a drivetrain loss of about 15%, not 10%. Wonder if it really has a 0-62 of 8.5 seconds though of if it gets much better times than that.
Ya I think a 15% drive train loss is the accepted figure, of course it is just a guideline. I know that Dodge had underrated the SRT-4s by quite a bit so I'm hoping that Hyundai is doing the same. 8.5 seems kind of slow, something in the high 6 or low 7's would be more acceptable considering the v6 is getting 5.9 second 0-62 mph times.
 

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Hmm interesting video... I'd have to agree with sabba that there are some unknown variables.. I'm just hoping the turbo is underrated at least a little bit but even it isn't I know that I should be able to modify to allow for more power relatively easy. It's good to know that the aftermarket is already taking a interest in developing parts for this car.
 

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I was hoping for more out of the turbo4 as well, mid 7s 0-60, but I was also hoping for mid 6s for the 6cyl. Need more torque, my 4000lb bimmer only has 282Hp, but 325 ft/lb of torque propeeling it 0-60 in 5.7 secs. Same thing for the sedan's V/8 which has almost 100Hp more that my bimmer & weighs the same, but only turns the same time 5.7
Ya since the v6 is getting mid to high 5's 0-60 I would think that the turbo 4 wouldn't be more than 2 seconds slower... It kind of brings up again to me why Hyundai put a 2.0l instead of a larger 2.4l to help get some more power out of it. Maybe we will all be surprised by the US spec version and it will be slightly faster than what is being reported. I would love to get the v6, but I am planning on racing this car and the 100lb penalty compared to the turbo 4 is keeping me from going that way.



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I think it's possible the 8.5 second time reported in the short clip is a way underrated figure, and maybe from testing the auto four turbo at that. That might attest to the slower times. So I'm guessing a real world test of the manual car (with a drag style launch) would be in the mid 6s to low 7s at least. Maybe the turbo four only needs the driver mod to get into the 6s, who knows. If the car is 230hp at the crank, weighs under 3500lbs, is RWD and has a manual tranny it should be getting better times unless the gearing on the tranny is all off.
 

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Something that I have to say as I go through this debate all the time on other forums is people get waaaaay to caught up on Dyno #'s. We dont race on dyno's so dont let the numbers discourage you.

Dynojets read high compared to dyno's such as our eddy-current Mustang Dyno which is a load based dyno. The dynojet reads typically crank horsepower. Granted this car was auto but on our dyno which reads actual horsepower at the wheels by loading the car like its on the road the numbers would be even lower.

For reference on how low our Mustang reads a stock Evo 8 will make between 205-215. They are rated at 276.

We had a Evo 9 here one day that was bone stock and just out of curiosity we dyno'd it here where it made 222. We took it down the road to an AWD Dynojet and it made like 256.

Another reference..... We dyno'd our black drag car back when it was "slow" and it made 733 here. We took it to a Dynojet an hour later and it made 903.
 

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Something that I have to say as I go through this debate all the time on other forums is people get waaaaay to caught up on Dyno #'s. We dont race on dyno's so dont let the numbers discourage you.

Dynojets read high compared to dyno's such as our eddy-current Mustang Dyno which is a load based dyno. The dynojet reads typically crank horsepower. Granted this car was auto but on our dyno which reads actual horsepower at the wheels by loading the car like its on the road the numbers would be even lower.

For reference on how low our Mustang reads a stock Evo 8 will make between 205-215. They are rated at 276.

We had a Evo 9 here one day that was bone stock and just out of curiosity we dyno'd it here where it made 222. We took it down the road to an AWD Dynojet and it made like 256.

Another reference..... We dyno'd our black drag car back when it was "slow" and it made 733 here. We took it to a Dynojet an hour later and it made 903.

That's good info Jarrod thanks for brining us back down to what is "real world". Another note is what the Korean market car is getting is far as power numbers may very well be much lower than what the US Spec car will get. It has already been reported that the cars will be different and not to say the Koreans don't know how to run a dyno but I want to see some American experts like the sponsors here do some runs and report on the results. Just something about reading a post of adyno graph in Korean and try'n to do the conversions that bugs me.. That's just me though. :Hmmm:
 

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I was hoping for more out of the turbo4 as well, mid 7s 0-60, but I was also hoping for mid 6s for the 6cyl. Need more torque, my 4000lb bimmer only has 282Hp, but 325 ft/lb of torque propeeling it 0-60 in 5.7 secs. Same thing for the sedan's V/8 which has almost 100Hp more that my bimmer & weighs the same, but only turns the same time 5.7
Sorry, I meant I was hoping for mid 5s for the 6cyl, not mid 6s which is too damn slow.



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Something that I have to say as I go through this debate all the time on other forums is people get waaaaay to caught up on Dyno #'s. We dont race on dyno's so dont let the numbers discourage you.

Dynojets read high compared to dyno's such as our eddy-current Mustang Dyno which is a load based dyno. The dynojet reads typically crank horsepower. Granted this car was auto but on our dyno which reads actual horsepower at the wheels by loading the car like its on the road the numbers would be even lower.

For reference on how low our Mustang reads a stock Evo 8 will make between 205-215. They are rated at 276.

We had a Evo 9 here one day that was bone stock and just out of curiosity we dyno'd it here where it made 222. We took it down the road to an AWD Dynojet and it made like 256.

Another reference..... We dyno'd our black drag car back when it was "slow" and it made 733 here. We took it to a Dynojet an hour later and it made 903.
I've heard from other people that Mustang dynojets are usually way off & under rate the vehicles being tested on them. Just my 2 cents.



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I've heard from other people that Mustang dynojets are usually way off & under rate the vehicles being tested on them. Just my 2 cents.
Mustang and Dyojet are 2 different companies. Both are dynamometer's of course. Just wanted to clear that up.

It seems as you are reading into the Dyno hype that I talked about in my first reply on here.

Some people think they are "experts" and know everything about cars, engines, dyno's, etc... Im not talking about you im talking about whoever said about "under rating". Im not saying im a know it all expert but I will put my knowledge up against the next guy and have a discussion. I do this everyday.

Take for instance the Evo RS street car here at the shop. It makes mid 600's on our Mustang and ran a 9.0 with minimal weight reduction. Still has full interior, factory glass, factory big Brembo's, etc.... A full out drag Evo made 1100+ on a Dynojet and went 8.9 runs lexan windows, is a TIN CAN inside, small brakes, etc.... Doesnt quite seem right does it?

Mustang dyno's read ACTUAL wheel horsepower. Mustang dyno's are a load bearing dyno that is GREAT for tuning and getting the car RIGHT as it loads the car as if you were on the road. Dynojets only roll for a " big testicular HP number".

Dyno numbers mean nothing when it comes to actual racing.
 

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Mustang and Dyojet are 2 different companies. Both are dynamometer's of course. Just wanted to clear that up.

It seems as you are reading into the Dyno hype that I talked about in my first reply on here.

Some people think they are "experts" and know everything about cars, engines, dyno's, etc... Im not talking about you im talking about whoever said about "under rating". Im not saying im a know it all expert but I will put my knowledge up against the next guy and have a discussion. I do this everyday.

Take for instance the Evo RS street car here at the shop. It makes mid 600's on our Mustang and ran a 9.0 with minimal weight reduction. Still has full interior, factory glass, factory big Brembo's, etc.... A full out drag Evo made 1100+ on a Dynojet and went 8.9 runs lexan windows, is a TIN CAN inside, small brakes, etc.... Doesnt quite seem right does it?

Mustang dyno's read ACTUAL wheel horsepower. Mustang dyno's are a load bearing dyno that is GREAT for tuning and getting the car RIGHT as it loads the car as if you were on the road. Dynojets only roll for a " big testicular HP number".

Dyno numbers mean nothing when it comes to actual racing.
Good info Jarrod. I'm wanting to see some frigg'n 1/4 mile times from these cars but have yet to see anything come out of Korea. I guess they are not into drag racing as we are here in the US.



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Well.... in that case you guys might just have to wait until we country boys get them. :shifting:

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haha, ya I don't even know if Korea has any drag strips. Maybe I we can contact one of our Korean companies and see if they'll do like a G-tech run or something.. Have you seen any of the supercharged drift videos yet? The V6 coupes sound very nice with some forced induction. I may consider getting a V6 now (probably not though). Ohwell, patience is a virtue i guess...We may just have to wait for you country boys.. :)



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I was hoping for more out of the turbo4 as well, mid 7s 0-60, but I was also hoping for mid 5s for the 6cyl. Need more torque, my 4000lb bimmer only has 282Hp, but 325 ft/lb of torque propelling it 0-60 in 5.7 secs. Same thing for the sedan's V/8 which has almost 100Hp more than my bimmer & weighs the same, but only turns the same time 5.7
Guys, usually I recheck what I write & evidently didn't in this case. So, I changed the hopeful 0-60 time for the 6cyl to mid 5s, plus had some mis-spels. Sorry, for the F-ups, I'll be more careful in the future.:(
P.S. It's not the dyno #s that bother me, being I've never had a car that I've owned dyno tested anyway, but rather, the 0-60 stats that are unsettling.



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