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I find it funny that Hyundai tries to compare the Genesis sedan or coupe to a BMW. Hyundai is not even in the same league as a BMW. They can steal the design of other cars but at the end of the day these cars are just econo boxes. I know with my M3 I can take it to a track and beat the living crap out of it and still be able to drive it the next day to work and look good doing it. I'd be surprised if the Hyundai cars didn't fall apart after a few runs on a dragstrip or road coarse. All of you guys looking to get a new sedan or coupe can buy a used BMW and be way ahead.

You get what you pay for. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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BMW are good designed, overrated, driver-oriented unrealible cars.
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There is some good and bad points about any car. I prefer to let the racer race before disqulifying him.
Germans car have all this solid driving skills but have a reputation to be costly at the purchase and also for the maintenance. Also, the reputation doesn't make the car itself better. A lot of company settle on their reputation, the great quality of Toyota, by example is a bit gone versus the 90's era.

The equation, in my opinion, always go back to the bang for buck$ !
In this field...Hyundai is a high contender for sure !
 

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Oh, I seemed to miss the joke. You can say what you want about Hyundai 2FastM3. Fact stands, that other manufacturers, including Hyundai are closing that gap on BMW's performance. I don't have to tell you how BMWs perform, you own one of the best performance bimmers around. I don't have to tell you that their quality, with regards to holding up over time sucks, once again you own one. But, I should tell you what alot of other people are figuring out. That you don't have to buy a BMW to get performance & you can do it at a fraction of the cost & still get 90% of the performance. Add a few grand in mods & you're ahead of the most of the bimmers out there. Do like I plan on doing with my GenCoupe & I dare you to try to keep up with my Hyundai in your bimmer.:shifting:



 

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I find it funny that Hyundai tries to compare the Genesis sedan or coupe to a BMW. Hyundai is not even in the same league as a BMW. They can steal the design of other cars but at the end of the day these cars are just econo boxes. I know with my M3 I can take it to a track and beat the living crap out of it and still be able to drive it the next day to work and look good doing it. I'd be surprised if the Hyundai cars didn't fall apart after a few runs on a dragstrip or road coarse. All of you guys looking to get a new sedan or coupe can buy a used BMW and be way ahead.

You get what you pay for. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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Dude you are geeeeeeehhhhhayee :gay: Get your head out of your butt and recognize Hyundai is going to take over the world!!!!! You might as well convert over and trade in your M3! :)



 

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Love the haters.... they are your biggest fans!

I find it funny that Hyundai tries to compare the Genesis sedan or coupe to a BMW. Hyundai is not even in the same league as a BMW. They can steal the design of other cars but at the end of the day these cars are just econo boxes. I know with my M3 I can take it to a track and beat the living crap out of it and still be able to drive it the next day to work and look good doing it. I'd be surprised if the Hyundai cars didn't fall apart after a few runs on a dragstrip or road coarse. All of you guys looking to get a new sedan or coupe can buy a used BMW and be way ahead.

You get what you pay for. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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Beamers are nice cars I will give them that.

Congrats on your M3. *Hands you a cookie*

Actually..... you could buy a used Evo and have a faster/better performance car for less money but hey... what do I care. You evidently like to ride a high horse and blow your own horn. As for your opinion about the Hyundai you can put that in your stuck up nose.

If you would ever like to be shown up in that high and mighty BMW come to Ohio. I'll be glad to SPANK you with a 4door grocery getter or better yet give me some time and i'll give you a "cheap, econobox knock-off" whoopin with my Coupe.
 

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I usually only judge something if I have a basis to make a sound judgement. Since the car is not evn out yet in the States no one, not even the BMW guys can say anything. Now on paper this car looks like a great car and the info coming over from Korea looks very promising and with all the aftermarket support this car is getting even when this car is not yet released to teh states tells me that this car will be a kick a$$ car to have and own. I can't wait to smoke me some BMWs! :)
 

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I'd take the M3 no question even if the Genesis or Evo out performed it. But thats just my personal taste I like the look of the M3 over those cars.

Yeah, the M3 ranks as one of my dream cars if money were no object, but it is. If I had $88,000 to spend on cars, I would buy a GenCoupe & an Evo, then modify the shit out of them before I would buy an M3.:shifting:



 

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Only thing I would be concerned with off the lot with the Genesis would be the clutch. If you've owned a Tiburon you'd know that the clutch is known to fail after 30,000 and that's not even beating on it. All in all I believe Hyundai has corrected this problem and has created the next BIG tuner that anyone can afford. Now saying that I fear for the teenage drivers. That's a different discussion all it's own. Reason I won't be buying a Genesis is I have my Tiburon and I'm happy with it. Also my next project car is an S15 track car. It'll be bought next year registered as a race car and built in my garage!!
 

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Its funny that that BMW guy came on here because Im actually trading in my BMW for the Gen Coupe lol As I always say
"BMWs are nice, until you have to fix 'em"
Ive already put 4 grand into getting my car fixed in the last 2 months and I will never buy a used bimmer again....ever lol
 

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Its funny that that BMW guy came on here because Im actually trading in my BMW for the Gen Coupe lol As I always say
"BMWs are nice, until you have to fix 'em"
Ive already put 4 grand into getting my car fixed in the last 2 months and I will never buy a used bimmer again....ever lol
I feel ya!
I spent $3,000 in parts alone in the 1st year, that's with doing the work myself. Tried to sale the damn thing after owning it 6mos with no luck. Had it listed in BMW trader, in BMW trader on line, & Yahoo for payoff for over a year, but couldn't sell it. I even kept dropping the price as I paid it down & I got it at a decent price to begin with.

During the 2nd year didn't spend near as much in repairs & had already replaced most stuff that could break. But, still was working on it at least every couple of months. Stopped trying to sell it seeing that it wasn't going anywhere & now I knew how to work on it.

This last year it has given me a break & I haven't had to do many repairs, maybe just once every few months. :bow: Since it's been kind to me, I've decided to keep it. Thus, I dropped about $3 grand in mods, of which only an aFe air filter, MagnaFlow exaust, & Cosmo front/rear strut tower braces are performance oriented, the rest is cosmetic. I'm in the process of installing these parts & will share pics once I'm done & I figure out how to down load them.

So, this next year I'm going to repair the stuff I've been over looking & putting off. Driver's seat belt doesn't recoil well, driver's window run drags, drivers door body weatherstrip worn, A/C blower motor noisey, fix all rattles, install rear window regulator kits, struts worn out, thrush rod bushings worn out, lower control arm bushings worn out, replace under hood insulation, check for oil leaks & fix, replace lower oil pan & gasket, replace P/S hose clamps, replace O2 sensors & mass air flow meter as preventative maint, replace fuel filter, svc rear axle, flush all fluids again (coolant, brake, & P/S), as well as, A/T lifetime synthetic fluid (done by BMW svc)

Now, when I replace the struts, I will be going back with Koni yellow adjustables & adding Eibach sway bars to further improve handling. The factory Msport springs are about as good as you can get. Then I will hopefully be done with this project, except for maybe a 2nd set of rims for show (staggered hyper black w/machined lip 19"s).

This car has definately been a love/hate relationship. Love it when it's running & hate it when it's not. I'll admit that I've never owned a car that overall performs as well as this one, whether 2 or 4 door. I've owned straight line faster cars, but this car is the whole pkg. And I've owned alot of cars.

Would I recommend someone buying one? Only if you can afford it new, before they start to tear up, are under warranty, & get free maint. My car cost about $60 grand new, so I couldn't afford what I wanted new & didn't want a small 3 series that I couldn't be comfortable in. Would I do it again knowing what I know now? HELL NO!. The money that I spent buying this car, interest, insurance, tags, repairs, mods, & gas over 5yrs, would have paid for my GenCoupe R-Spec in cash & the $20,000 in mods I plan on doing.:cry:



 

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Both reasons I believe have to do with it. Usually around 60k is when trouble starts with bimmers, but in your case Lord Calvert, it'll take about 80k.



 

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Yeah, I bought my E39 with 288,000 miles!
And I did almost all the work myself, but almost everything works like brand new now. If I had to do it again, I sooooo would not. I traded my 400hp 200sx (2 door sentra) with an sr20 that had a blown head gasket for it because it ran and I tried to attempt a head gasket replacement with no experience (it ended up being a bent valve, the new owner just replaced the whole head for $500). This next time around, I will be doing all the work on my Gen Coupe and have a better understanding of engine building and what each part does.
 
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