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I came across this site while searching youtube for video on the new Coupe. I personally have not owned a Hyundai. I recommended an Azeera to my inlaws and they love it. An aunt has the Tuscon on my recommendation and loves it. I have not yet decided what to do.

I am 40. I have always been a muscle car guy (I have a 72 Skylark with a torque monster 462 big block and a 72 Vette in the midst of a frame off with some custom work). I have solely purchased foreign cars since 2001. Mostly trucks, Toyota (3) and Honda. I have a Sequoia and Ridgeline currently. It would take something very special to get me back to the BIG 3. Just last week I bought my first 4 cylinder car in my life. A MINT 91 Accord EX 5 speed COUPE. I have a leased vehicle that is up in April. I wanted to take my time and get what I want so I bought this Honda as a filler while I figure it out. That way I am in no rush.

I am not sure what Genesis Coupe I am interested in more. The 4 or 6. I am looking forward to Jrod and his findings on the 4 before committing. I am fortunate to live about an hour away from BUSCHUR so that is a HUGE plus. With the recent economic events, fuel prices etc, I have decided to get away from trucks as daily drivers and get back into cars. I want something that is priced well, dependable and most of all performance based, while still being reasonably fuel efficient. This is why I have been trolling this forum. It seems the Genesis Coupe could be a real bargain. Figured I would join, in case I need to chime in somewhere.

I have tested the new WRX, Ralliart, Cobalt SS, SI and have just not been able to sell myself on any of them yet. I am hopeful to gain a lot of info from this site once these things start hitting the streets. I am a member of many forums and am impressed with the look and feel of this site.

I am educating myself on a car market I never really paid much attention to. Tuner cars or whatever you guys call this turbo class of cars. I have broadened my thinking and have pretty much decided to pull the trigger on something in this class.

Great job on this site and I am glad to be a member.
 

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Welcome to the site and glad you like the look and feel. I'm in complete agreement with you as far as owning another Domestic car. My '91 Accord is 10 years older than my '01 Chevy S-10 and the Accord has fewer problems than my S-10. It's kind of sad. My new truck ('04 Nissan Titan) is great but I'm doing as you and getting rid of my trucks. Actually I would keep my truck but my wife says something has to go and because I know gas prices will eventually go back up I figure now is a good time to get rid of it. Welcome again to the forums. :)



 

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Welcome to the site dboz1, you & I have a few things in common. I'm 39 & have always owned muscle cars until recently. In the last 10yrs I have owned a Camry & Galant, which were both 4cyls. Then got the 540i because I missed the power & sound of a V/8. This will also be my 1st ever turbo or FI car. I'm also in no rush, although I'm not interested in a 4dr, WRX, Ralliart, or Cobalt.

I'm jealous that you're so close to Buschur, since there is a very good chance that's where I'll be getting my go-fast parts & that's who will be doing my tuning. So, I have to order the parts, install them, then trailer my car in to be dyno & tuned.

P.S. if you're new to turbos, take the time to read the turorials, it's worth the time.



 

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Thanks for the heads up. I will check that out. I was originally drawn to the 4 doors just because I have 2 little kids. I realize that they are only ever in my vehicle about 5% of the time, so I am no longer worrying about that. Just hope there is enough room in the back for them 3 and 5 y.o. My brother has an 05 Roush GT and his kids fit in the back of that so I figure the G-C should work also.

I could see myself getting rid of my Corvette, but not my BUICK. It has insane torque.
 

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So are you leaning towards the 4 cylinder then Tufast? Also, I never really paid attention until I started looking at turbo cars, now I see BR350 MItsus around here and I do go to some local tracks once in a while and see some EVO IX's driving in and running low 10's. They know their stuff as I am sure you already know. I do not want to spend the money on an EVO X as my driver cars sit on my driveway and then in a parking lot at work, the Genesis Coupe will be more in my price for a fun car without the worry like it would be with a 35k EVO!!
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I will check that out. I was originally drawn to the 4 doors just because I have 2 little kids. I realize that they are only ever in my vehicle about 5% of the time, so I am no longer worrying about that. Just hope there is enough room in the back for them 3 and 5 y.o. My brother has an 05 Roush GT and his kids fit in the back of that so I figure the G-C should work also.

I could see myself getting rid of my Corvette, but not my BUICK. It has insane torque.
I've never sat in the rear but my wife has, she's about 5'6" and she thought it was very roomy.

So are you leaning towards the 4 cylinder then Tufast? Also, I never really paid attention until I started looking at turbo cars, now I see BR350 MItsus around here and I do go to some local tracks once in a while and see some EVO IX's driving in and running low 10's. They know their stuff as I am sure you already know. I do not want to spend the money on an EVO X as my driver cars sit on my driveway and then in a parking lot at work, the Genesis Coupe will be more in my price for a fun car without the worry like it would be with a 35k EVO!!
The great thing about the turbo Genesis Coupes is the engines are similar to the EVOs and most likely will be able to use many of the same mods as the EVOs. The $15,000 you save from buying the EVO you can use to buy some power mods for the Genesis Coupe. :)



 

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You may not be able to actually use the same mods on both the GenCoupe & Evo engines necessarily, considering that only the blocks are shared with regards to the world engine joint effort. But. I would assume the mods that become available will be very similar, if not the same. And I agree, I'm not interested in spending 35 grand on a car that I'm just going to modify the hell out of & probably void alot of the warranty. I wish Hyundai would offer a 33% discount version of the the R-Spec with no warranty from the getgo. I'm not buying mine for the warranty, I trust Hyundai's build quality these days.

P.S. I'm not leaning toward the turbo4, I'm getting an R-Spec & it only will come with the 4cyl turbo, so I guess I'm dead set on it. Prior to the disclosure from Hyundai of an R-Spec annoncement release, I was up in the air, but that is no longer the case.



 

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It will be good to see what BUSCHUR can come up with as far as the engine. Are they planning on tearing down Jrod's new motor to check the guts since it sounds like he may just start with their forged internals. I have to admit that I am not overly impressed with the stock power and performance numbers that I have seen. Of course the weight is a major factor in that. If you go over to EVOM and do a search for the ZCHIP, it has done very well on the EVO X and it just plugs in and can easily be removed so it has the potential of gains without warranty void. Of course those gains come with the twin scroll. The Ralliart did not get near those gains but it also has the same problem as the MR, the tranny is very finicky to mods.
 

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Jrod would probably better answer this question than me. Jrod correct me later when you see this if I'm off. But, from what i've gathered from Jrod, he will do the mods to his GenCoupe in stages so he can see the gains from each & post them so we will know what to expect to get from his parts. Buschur is big on R&D, so they will test everything thoroughly before advising us or selling it to us. I believe once he has documented everything necessary & Buschur is satisfied with the results, they will move on to the next stage of upgrades doing the same extensive R&D & so on. I believe in the end Jrod will have built the shit ouf of this motor, including the bottom end & we will have a very good idea what the limits are of the stock parts & what the limits are of the parts they make available to us. I know that all this R&D will take them time, but they are already planning & Jrod seems to be preparing to purchase one of the 1st GenCoupes available, then go to work on it immediately. I'm very excited that Buschur is involved & can't wait to get them involved on my car. With all their experience on Evo 4b11t motors, they should have an edge up IMO

This turbo4 does seem like a dog from the factory compared to some of the 4cyl turbo offerings out there. Just keep in mind 4 thiings: 1) this is a fairly heavy vehicle for the power output, 2) this vehicle is detuned to give reason to buy the 6cyl, 3) this vehicle is detuned to give better mpg which Hyundai is known for, 4) this engine is detuned because Hyundai has to satisfy a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty.



 

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It will be nice to follow the progress over there. Hopefully there will be some nice easy power to find. Any idea on specs related to the transmission choices? I assume they will be fairly stout since it can handle V8 power, no?
 
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