[Makotoseven]

the gencoupe didn't beat out the other cars. the v6 mustang beat them all in performance, quality, and price. MT used opinion to give the second place car (with a 5K starting price gap) the mustang's spot.

whats with them comparing sports car vs 3 muscle cars and the top model vs the base models?

lame.

 

[Makotoseven]

The price of the Mustang as tested is $32,545 which is exactly $2K more than I paid for my 3.8 Track ZF. If you want the base V6 mustang you have to give up everything that made the Mustang "beat" the Genesis(GT suspension, brakes and wheels, premium sound, seats, ipod connect, etc...). So to say that there is a 5K price difference is wrong. Using that logic you could say the Genesis starts at 22K. The only opinion that MT used was the fact that the Genesis drove like a sports car while the others didn't. They drove like what they are...muscle cars.

1. the genesis 2.0T starts at 22K with no good stuff at all
2. the genesis 3.8 starts at 30K (anything else gives up LSD, good brakes, good suspension)
3. mustang starts at 22K WITH LSD, brakes, and upgraded suspension
4. the mustang track pack is what you're referring to and its only like 2grand extra. NONE of which have anything to do with the mustang beating the gen in a straight line (which is what most people will be doing anyhow) the options you're talking about are all aesthetic and electronic tinker toys.
5. the GT 5.0 starts at 30k and rapes every one of these cars. hard. lol

so to recap:

1. the cars that are in the same price range RAPE each other.
2. the base model mustang with the track pack owns the 3.8 track with over a 6K price gap
3. the mustang gets better mpg than every genesis, is faster than every genesis, and the chassis and drivetrain technology has been proven tried and true well before ford beat the hell out of it in the last 2 years.

the fact of the matter is they shouldn't have put the gen in the comparison test because it isn't the same kind of car. everybody knows that people buy cars based on price range and while the genesis was groundbreaking a year ago ford has changed the game in a big way.

look, i liked the genesis before it even came out. then i had to wait a bit to get one. then ford made this new V6 model that is faster than every genesis coupe,

 

[Makotoseven]

Mako, while I agree with most of what you said, I could give a rat's ass about going fast in a straight line. Another thing I will never own is a stripped down V6 mustang that every prom queen is gonna be driving. My main problem with the mustang is the fact that they are everywhere. I don't care if it's an 1994-2011, you see them every ten feet and the base models twice as often. I was wrong that the 22k version wouldn't outrun the 3.8 gen but come the first curve and that 22k mustang is in the ditch.

1. the car isn't stripped down. the rspec is stripped down and costs more than the v6 stang lol
2. again, you're comparing the top model much more expensive sports car to the base model
3. again, you're comparing the track version (top model) gen to the base model mustang v6
4. the mustang did better in every performance area. including handling. check the skidpad numbers.

in the real world being in the ballpark of each other is really close enough for handling because thats all hinged on driver ability. the real problem the gen has is that its top car isn't as fast as the base model mustang. hyundai needs to step up the 2.0T to some good power. times have just changed, dude.

Tufast was able to stay right on a 2010 Mustang GT in his 2.0 rspec on the track at Road Atlanta. Straight line, the Mustang would pull away, then Tufast would catch right back up at the curves. So no matter how you try to pump up the new mustang, I ain't buyin it since the V6 gets most of it's performance from the 2010 GT.

so your speculation is hinged on the abilities of 2 completely different cars that are hinged on 2 people that may or may not drive better or worse on any given sunday.

come on man lol

And last but not least...the warranty. 5/60 on a car that has a track record of having major problems before 100K. Everyone says the quality is better but until I see a Mustang with 100k on that don't have knobs and window regulators falling out will I be a believer. Just sayin'.

again, speculation and flat out ignorance. just sayin.

ford changed the game when it unleashed its new mustang. the V6 is finally a great car and the GT is now a STELLAR car. i dont get what the problem is, the gen is obviously a totally different market. you get less performance for way more money but you get the style you want. if ford hadn't released this new V6 model with all the stuff i want and nothing i dont i'd still be on the R-Spec wagon. thats life.

and i was never impressed with the V6 version. i foresaw this happening when they released it. ford has been working on this tech for like 15 years and this year was the perfect year to just ruin the market for everyone else. i'm proud of em. hyundai is still doing good, enjoy having a car that not many people will have. i'll just get the one that i think is better in every way and cheaper to boot

 

[Makotoseven]

What car does Makotoseven own?

i got the meanest vespa you ever did see, boy.